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Vatican was warned about paedophile priests in 1963

 

Lawyers for US victims of abuse reveal letter of concern written to the then Pope

By David Usborne

Friday, 2 April 2010

Pope Benedict celebrates Mass in Rome yesterday. The Vatican was beset by fresh revelations that it was warned of sex abuse by US priests 50 years ago

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Pope Benedict celebrates Mass in Rome yesterday. The Vatican was beset by fresh revelations that it was warned of sex abuse by US priests 50 years ago

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A letter sent in 1963 to Pope Paul VI by a senior American priest who outlined the "problem of the problem priest" suggests that the Vatican was fully aware – or at least should have been aware – of the extent of sexual abuse within the US Catholic Church almost five decades ago.

 

The missive, unearthed and made public yesterday by lawyers representing victims of alleged sexual abuse in Los Angeles, argued even then that the best solution for dealing with priests found to have violated young men and boys was to defrock them, rather than shuffle them to other dioceses, as was the practice of the Catholic Church for so long.

The Rev Gerald Fitzgerald penned the letter at the behest of Pope Paul VI after meeting him in Rome to discuss cases of abuse in the US. Fitzgerald was a former head of the New Mexico-based Servants of the Holy Paraclete, a religious congregation of men dedicated to ministry to priests with personal difficulties.

"Personally, I am not sanguine of the return of priests to active duty, who have been addicted to abnormal practices, especially sins with the young," Fitzgerald wrote. "Where there is indication of incorrigibility, because of the tremendous scandal given, I would most earnestly recommend total laicisation. I say 'total'... because when these men are taken before civil authority, the non-Catholic world definitely blames the discipline of celibacy for the perversion of these men."

The letter has surfaced just as the Vatican is striking back at what it has called unfair coverage of the burgeoning paedophilia scandal by US media outlets. A lawyer for abuse victims in Kentucky has filed a lawsuit against the Vatican that could seek to force Pope Benedict XVI to testify in court.

Partly in response to the Kentucky filing, the head of the Vatican's legal tribunal, Giuseppe dalla Torre, told an Italian newspaper that Pope Benedict, as a head of state, had legal immunity and could not be called to testify in any court on this or on any other matter.

Another senior official, Cardinal William Levada, an American who leads the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, meanwhile singled out The New York Times for its coverage of the scandal, saying it "lacks fairness" in its reports, including those dealing with allegations that Pope Benedict failed to act to stop the abuse of deaf boys in Wisconsin before he ascended to the papacy.

Cardinal Levada noted that his predecessor was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict, who had forced through new laws to punish priests found guilty of abuse. "I ask the Times to reconsider its attack mode about Pope Benedict XVI and give the world a more balanced view of a leader it can and should count on," Cardinal Levada wrote in an article on the Vatican website. "We owe Pope Benedict a great debt of gratitude for introducing the procedures that have helped the Church to take action in the face of the scandal of priestly sexual abuse of minors."

Lawyers for abuse victims in California sought to underscore the significance of the 1963 letter to Pope Paul VI. "The letter proves Vatican officials knew about clergy abuse decades ago and should have done more to protect children," said Anthony DeMarco.

However, officials for the Catholic archdiocese in Los Angeles said it was highly unlikely that Pope Paul VI ever even saw Fitzgerald's letter. "The fact is the prevailing ideas at the time about how to deal with abusive behaviour were not adequate," said a spokesman. "Clearly, society and the Church have evolved new understandings of what causes sexually abusive behaviour and how to deal with it."




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The Vatican faces fresh scandals over the children of priests

When Pat Bond told her lover Henry Willenborg, a Franciscan priest, that she was pregnant, he urged her to have an abortion.

Bond, who was 28, had a miscarriage and then became pregnant again. This time Willenborg’s superiors urged her to give up the child for adoption.

Bond, from Missouri, kept the child but agreed to a vow of silence. In a signed contract with the Catholic Church, she undertook to keep the priest’s identity secret in exchange for financial support for her son, Nathan.

In America, Britain, Ireland, Germany, France, Italy and Austria,women made pregnant by priests have signed such pledges in exchange for hush money from the church.

Pope Benedict XVI refused to comment on the scandals on his flight to Malta for a weekend visit yesterday, saying only that the church had been “wounded by our sins”. But he faces a new battle over the children of priests. Many former lovers and their offspring are preparing to mount lawsuits.

Bond was 25 when she started a five-year relationship with Willenborg in 1983, after going to him for marriage counselling. He kissed her passionately as she left his parlour, then she left her husband.

After Bond became pregnant by him for the second time in 1986, Willenborg’s order, the Order of Friars Minor, offered her $50,000 and a confidentiality contract. “They said: ‘Here, take this money, sign this contract and you’ll have support for your child’. I was very naive and I signed,” said Bond.

She broke her promise of silence last year after the Franciscans refused to meet part of the cost of treatment for her son Nathan, then 22, who died in November from a brain tumour.

When Willenborg’s liaisons with Bond, now 53, and another woman became public, the priest was suspended from his parish in Ashland, Wisconsin. He was treated for sex addiction, then returned to his pastoral duties. Catherine Schroeder, a St Louis lawyer for the Order of Friars Minor, declined to comment. Willenborg and the order failed to return calls and emails.

Other cases are reaching the US courts. In Maryland, two children of the late Father Francis Ryan are suing their local archdiocese and a religious order for $10m after discovering through DNA tests that he was their father.

Carla Latty, 58, and Adrian Senna, 65, say Ryan never admitted he was their father or made any payments to their late mother. Senna was sent to an orphanage, while Latty was put up for adoption.

Cait Finnegan, of the Good Tidings association, an American charity for priests and their lovers, has been contacted by nearly 2,000 women who had relationships with priests. She said one pregnant friend had been told by a bishop to “get rid of the child” — a comment she took to mean she should have an abortion. The woman kept the baby.

Thousands of priests in German-speaking countries are believed to have fathered children. Paul Zuhlener, an Austrian theologian, has estimated that up to 22% of Austrian priests have sexual relationships.

Sabine Bauer of the Austrian branch of We Are Church, a reform group, predicted a spate of lawsuits. “The children of priests, and their mothers, are the next ones who will take legal action against the church. Their numbers are large and they have been denied basic rights,” she said.

In Britain, Adrianna Alsworth, who has two children by a priest and runs the Sonflowers helpline for those who have had relationships with priests, said she knew of several women who had been offered confidentiality contracts in return for child support.

“The children aren’t given an opportunity to have a normal family life, and they suffer,” she said.

In Ireland, the former Down bishop Pat Buckley, who runs Bethany, a support group for women in relationships with priests, said he had dealt with two whose abortions had been paid for by priest lovers. In one case, the priest had accompanied the woman to England for the abortion.

In central Italy, Luisa, a psychologist who has an 18-month-old son by a priest, was told by her bishop: “If you give up the baby for adoption, you can stay with the priest and I’ll pretend there’s nothing wrong.” She refused but the couple have since broken up and the priest refuses to recognise the child.

Lorenzo Maestri, a former priest and member of Vocatio, an association for married priests in Italy, accused the Pope of leading a cover-up. “Benedict is responsible for the secrecy, because in 2001, as head of the Vatican office which dealt with all sexual problems involving priests, he ordered the bishops to send these cases to him in Rome,” Maestri said.

Benedict, whose fifth anniversary of his election is tomorrow, may acknowledge the child-abuse cases by agreeing to meet seven victims on his Malta visit. There is no such prospect for the children of priests. When asked what she would like the pontiff to do, Bond quoted her late son: “Nathan told me, ‘I want the Pope to tell me he’s sorry. The church abandons us, it calls us legal obligations. It doesn’t even call us by our names’.”

- The Vatican has been hit by another embarrassing revelation after the leaking of a letter written in 2001 by a senior Vatican official praising a French bishop when he was convicted of failing to report a paedophile priest to the police. Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos wrote to Bishop Pierre Pican: “I congratulate you for not denouncing a priest to the civil administration.”

The priest concerned, Father René Bissey, was jailed for 18 years.

Additional reporting: Justine McCarthy in Dublin



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April 13, 2010

Is the Holy See above the law?

Richard Dawkins is reported to be planning a “legal ambush” to have the Pope arrested for “crimes against humanity” on his visit, this September to the UK. The atheist Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens are consulting human rights lawyers at present (including Geoffrey Robertson) to ask them to produce a case for charging Pope Benedict XVI over an alleged cover up of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

In doing so they conflate and confuse two international identities. Before 1870, there were two subjects of international law: the Papal States and the Holy See. Of these two persons in international law the one, the Papal States, was extinguished by the Italian post-Risorgimento government when they invaded and overran those States in September 1870. But the Holy See which goes back to early Christian times and to an era where the concept of the nation state was unknown, continued to exist as the preeminent episcopal jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, and as such, diplomatically, and in other spheres, the Holy See was and is acting for the whole Catholic Church.

The Holy See remained a sovereign entity and a subject of general international law in the period between the annexation of the Papal States in 1870 and the Lateran Treaty of 1929 when the Vatican City State was created to solve the so-called Roman question (when the Pope withdrew to the Vatican and refused to recognise the Italian Government’s annexation of Rome and the Papal States) and give the Holy See a territorial dimension once again.

This can be seen by the practice of states, including Britain which re-established diplomatic relations with the Holy See in 1914 after a break of 450 years. During this period, when the Holy See had no territory, the Holy See continued to conclude concordats and continued, with the consent of a majority of states, to exercise the active and passive right of legation. In fact in the course of the 59 years during which the Holy See held no territorial sovereignty, the number of states that had diplomatic relations with it, which had been reduced to 16, actually increased to 29.

So those like Robertson who claim that the Holy See’s international status was unilaterally created by the “fascist state of Italy in 1929” are using a bogus argument. And the reference to fascism is a complete red herring. Since unification in 1870 successive Italian governments had attempted to solve the impasse with the Pope and had Mussolini not done so the first post-war Italian government would certainly have secured an agreement.

Since 1929 the Holy See has continued to be recognised, both in state practice and in modern legal scholarship, as a subject of public international law, with rights and duties analogous to those of States. The Holy See is recognised by the United Nations as an Observer State in the UN system and is a full member of a large number of UN Specialised Agencies.

It maintains diplomatic relations with 178 states, it is a member state in various intergovernmental international organisations, and is respected by the international community of sovereign states and treated as a subject of international law having the capacity to engage in diplomatic relations and to enter into binding agreements with other states under international law. Foreign embassies are accredited to the Holy See, not to the Vatican City, and it is the Holy See that establishes treaties and concordats with other sovereign entities. Thus the British Ambassador to the Holy See is contrary to some assertions, not the head of an apostolic mission while papal representatives to states and international organisations are recognised as representing the Holy See, not the Vatican City State.

A call for rigorous evidence-based prosecution of both those accused of the heinous crime of child abuse and those involved in covering up such crimes would rightly attract widespread support inside and outside the Catholic Church. By being so obviously sensible and equitable, it would however attract rather less publicity and fewer headlines even were the call to come from such high profile figures as Robertson and Dawkins. But those who sincerely want to see the Church’s Augean stables comprehensively cleaned might judge that this is the common sense path to follow rather than an unrealistic and spurious call for an international court appearance by the Pontiff.

Sir Ivor Roberts, President of Trinity College, Oxford, is a former British Ambassador to Italy, Ireland and Yugoslavia and the editor of the new edition of Satow’s Diplomatic Practice



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February 16, 2010

Jesuits hard hit by high number of abuse claims

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The sexual abuse scandal in Jesuit-run German schools is spreading rapidly and is likely to involve more than a hundred former pupils, according to the head of one of the affected colleges.

The impact on the Catholic order, the Society of Jesus, has been devastating, since the Jesuits have always boasted: “Give us the child for seven years and we will give you the man.” Now it seems the order may lose some of its credibility, in Germany at least, as a pillar of Catholic education.

“I can imagine that we will reach a three-figure number,” said Father Klaus Mertes, head of the elite Canisius college in Berlin, talking of the number of possible victims. He did not exclude a compensation package.

Manuela Groll, a lawyer representing many former pupils, said: “More and more victims are coming forward every day.”

The problems are not confined to the Berlin college, with cases of possible abuse being investigated at schools in Bonn, Göttingen, in St Blasien in southwest Germany, Hanover and Hamburg. At the Alosius college in Bonn, alma mater of Thomas de Mazière, the Interior Minister, and Stefan Raab, one of Germany’s top TV entertainers, the director has resigned after a parent accused him of complicity.

The claims date from the late 1950s to well into the 1990s but all, so far, fall under the statute of limitations, meaning that there will be no official criminal prosecution.

Instead, the order has engaged an independent lawyer, Ursula Raue, to look into the allegations. Some abuse victims say that she is too close to the Jesuits.

Most cases reported to the order so far occurred in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Catholic priests speaking off the record say that, as leaders of church youth groups during this period, they were confused by the rapid changes in society. Pupils were caught up in the sexual revolution of that time and wanted to discuss their sexuality with the priests, many of whom were in their twenties. Until then, say the priests, Catholic education had an innocence about it. But the problems run much deeper. Many of the complainants say they were put under pressure to masturbate their priests. The Süddeutsche Zeitung carried an interview with an anonymous 62-year-old who has been active in politics for the past three decades.

He described graphically how, 50 years ago, he would be expected to enter the priest’s room and perform a sex act. The priest left the college two years later, supposedly for health reasons, to a parish in the Tyrolean alps, where he died in 1972.

To judge by the testimony of the victims, this was part of a pattern of covering the tracks of offending priests. Serious sexual and psychological abuse appears to have been tolerated until word leaked out to parents.

The Jesuits have apologised to the victims but the order faces a long period of self-appraisal. Even within the order, the expectation is that the paper trail will show a record of shielding offenders and ignoring signs of child abuse.



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Jesuit teachers at top German school admit sexually abusing boys

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Canisius college, where some of Germany's leading personalities were taught

A Jesuit teacher confessed yesterday to sexually abusing boys at a top German school, further engulfing the country’s Roman Catholic Church in a scandal over the mistreatment of dozens of pupils in its care.

Almost 30 alleged victims have come forward with claims against three Jesuit staff, saying that they were abused in the 1970s and 1980s at Canisius college in Berlin, alma mater of some of the country’s political, business and academic elite.

Peter R and Wolfgang S left the school in 1981 and 1979 respectively while the third alleged perpetrator, named as Bernhard E, 70, was suspended from the Jesuit order yesterday after admitting one case of sexual abuse. Three further victims made claims against him. Mr S, a former gym teacher, 65, now living in Chile, has confessed to the allegations and last week wrote an open letter of apology to victims, while Mr R has denied the allegations.

Bernhard E worked at schools in other regions of Germany including Hamburg and Hanover before founding a charity in 1983, and gaining numerous accolades including honorary degrees. There were also fresh claims against the other two teachers, from as far afield as St Blasien in southern Germany and Hildesheim near Hanover, where they also taught.

“The cases from the 1970s in Hanover give rise to the fear that there were similar assaults at other places,” said Stefan Dartmann, the head of the German Jesuit Order, yesterday.

Alleged victims have told the German press that they were punished by being spanked or caned on their bare buttocks, often while alone in a room with one of the men. Others said that they were asked embarrassing details about masturbation or ordered to masturbate in front of a teacher.

Mr Dartmann admitted that the Jesuit order in Germany had evidence of the sexual abuse cases since 1981, but had never informed parents, students or the authorities. The alleged abusers could no longer be prosecuted in Germany because of its statute of limitations, he said.

The scandal came to light after the school’s current headmaster, Pastor Klaus Mertes, wrote a letter to about 600 students who attended the school between 1975 and 1989, asking for victims to come forward.

“It was with shock and shame that I have learnt of these revolting violations that went on for years,” he wrote. “Among those who had a duty to protect the victims at Canisius College, and among the order, there was a culture of looking away.”

Pastor Mertes added that the problem of abuse was aggravated by a lack of a complaints procedure within the Jesuit order, an “obsession with church sexual pedagogy” and a “disproportionate use of power”.

The Berliner Morgenpost reported that Mr R was attacked with a knife in 1986 by a former Canisius pupil who later committed suicide. At the time, the priest persuaded police not to investigate, the paper said.



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Vatican Posts Online Guide Against Sexual Abuse by Clergy

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The Vatican announced on Monday that bishops and other Roman Catholic church officials must report clerical sex abuse to law enforcement authorities.  The Vatican posted a new guide on the Internet for lay people.

As pressure mounts on the Catholic Church over its handling of sexual abuse cases by priests and with Pope Benedict XVI also being criticized for his response to the crisis, a new guide for lay people was posted on the Vatican's Web site.  It makes clear that suspected abuse by priests must be reported to the police. 

Vatican scholar Marco Politi says these guidelines are short and simple as opposed to the 2001 norms on how to deal with cases of sexual abuse by priests that were written for bishops and canon lawyers. 

"These guidelines are very important not only from a practical point of view because they tell exactly what a bishop has to do, but also because they show the determination of the Pope to follow the zero tolerance line," said Marco Politi. "The Pope wants the victims to be listened to.  The Pope wants that nothing has to be covered up from now on.  And the Pope wants that these priests are punished, are removed and are brought before state courts."

As outlined in the online guide, bishops should investigate every allegation and any accusation with "a semblance of the truth" that is referred to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.  This enforcement body - once run by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict - is being criticized by those representing victims of abuse for having responded too late or too leniently.

Again, Marco Politi:

"The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, of course, has always worked with great secrecy," he said. "And now it is in a transition.  It must also learn to be quick in answering the issues, to be very transparent in its policy and also to give exact figures."

But the latest effort by the Vatican has done little to appease victims of sexual abuse.  The U.S.-based Survivors' Network of those Abused by Priests is calling for "deeds, not words" and says "church policies, whether online or not, are largely irrelevant" because bishops could easily ignore them.

The editor of the Vatican newspaper l'Osservatore Romano, Giovanni Maria Vian, on Monday defended Pope Benedict as a "great communicator."  He said there is a media campaign against the Pope and he criticized poor standards of reporting.   



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Sex Abuse Scandal Threatens Pope's Focus on Europe's Christian Roots

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Five years after being elected pope, Benedict XVI is reeling from church sex scandals that risk undermining a central mission of his papacy: promoting Europe's Christian heritage. 

On a sunny April morning five years ago, the newly elected Pope Benedict XVI explained his choice of a papal name to thousands of pilgrims massed in St. Peter's Square.  He cited, among other things, one of Europe's patron saints - St. Benedict of Norcia.  The pontiff called him a fundamental point of reference for Europe's unity, and a strong reminder of the region's Christian roots. 

Promoting Europe's Christian heritage is a centerpiece of Benedict's papacy.  But some religion analysts fear that mission is threatened by the pedophilia crisis that has battered the Roman Catholic Church, along with some media reports, strongly denied by the Vatican, that Pope Benedict may have been responsible for some of the failings of abusive priests. 

Philippe Portier is director of the Group on Society, Religion and Secularity at the French National Center for Scientific Research, in Paris. 

Portier says the pedophilia scandals are seriously weakening the pope's project to re-Christianize Europe.  He believes the church will have great difficulty in regaining the confidence of Catholic activists who can put that goal into action. 

Isabelle de Gaulmyn, head of the religion section for France's La Croix newspaper, agrees. 

De Gaulmyn describes the fallout of the pedophilia reports as disastrous, and damaging to the church's efforts to have a legitimate voice in society, in the long term.

 

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Pope Benedict inherited the project to promote Europe's Christian roots from his predecessor John Paul II.  A slew of statistics show a drift away from the church by Christians of all denominations.  In France, for example, about 70 percent of the population considers itself Catholic, but only about 20 percent attend mass, even occasionally. 

Earlier this decade, the Catholic church worked hard, but unsuccessfully, for a mention of Europe's Christian heritage in a draft, and ultimately discarded, European constitution.  Last year, the 27-member European Union finally adopted the Lisbon Treaty to strengthen and streamline its institutions.  The treaty simply refers to a dialogue with churches. 

But Johanna Touzel, spokeswoman for the Brussels-based Commission of the Bishops Conferences of the European Union, says the church still has an impact on an EU-wide level. 

"First thing, we are not [only] promoting Christian roots, we are promoting human dignity and common good in all EU policies.  And this is a major difference because on these two [values] you can have non-Christians who can share them," she said,

Touzel says the pedophilia scandal has not directly affected the conference's work, but she acknowledges the church is clearly weakened because of it. 

"I can only hope that this kind of earthquake in our church will lead to necessary reforms because an institution like the church [which] is eternal, still needs to reform itself to keep pertinent in the 21st century," she added.

Some church supporters believe the scandal will help re-energize the church and that the pope's evangelizing message for Europe will not be lost.  That includes Jean-Pierre Delville, a priest and theologian at the Catholic University of Leuven, in Belgium. 

Father Delville says the Catholic church cannot promote Europe's Christian roots without purifying its own roots from the sin and suffering caused by abusive members.  He points to Belgium as an example.  A separate, high-profile 1996 court trial of a pedophile and murderer sparked wider soul searching within Belgian society, and prompted the church to crack down on sex abuses. 

Church supporters can also take heart in a new poll published by France'sLa Croix newspaper.  It indicates 61 percent of Europeans believe Christian messages and values are still meaningful, even though it says seven out of 10 believe Christians do not do a good job communicating them.

Spokesman Christian Weisner, of the international Catholic reform movement We are Church, points to the past. 

"In my heart and my brain, I think there is a deep hope that the church will overcome this crisis as it overcame other crises in history," said Weisner. 

In France, Monsignor Tony Anatrella, a psychoanalyst and expert on priests and pedophilia, has no doubt Pope Benedict will continue to push his message of Europe's Christian roots, regardless of his present problems. 

Monsignor Anatrella says Benedict is a determined pope who will not be swayed by the events of the moment.



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April 11, 2010 by vedaprakash

போப்புக்கு நடக்கும் செக்ஸ் விவகாரங்கள் சரியாகச் சொல்லப்படவில்லையாம்!

குறிப்பு: இப்புகைப் படங்கள் குருமார்களை இழிவு படுத்த வேண்டும் என்ற எண்ணத்தில் எடுத்துப் போடவில்லை.

ஆனால், வழி நடத்தும் குருமார்கள், பெண்களிடமிருந்து விலகி இருந்தால் பிரச்சினைகள் வராது, ஒழுக்கம் இருக்கும்….என்பதனை உணர்த்தப் போடப் படுகிறது.

அனைத்தும் இணைத் தளங்களில் உள்ளவைதாம்!

வாடிகன் அதிகாரிகள் போப்புடன் கத்தோலிக்கப் பாதிரியார்களின் செக்ஸ் விவகாரங்களை வழக்கமாக பேசுவதில்லை என்பதனால், பல விஷயங்கள் தெரியாமல் போகின்றன. அதாவது முறையான பேச்சுகள், கருத்து பரிமாற்றங்கள் முதலியவை இல்லாமல் போகின்றன. அதனால்தான் இந்த செக்ஸ் அவதூறை தடுக்க முடியாமல், அமெரிக்க ஆதரவாளர்களே  நொந்து போய் விட்டனராம் (இன்றைய வாஷிங்டன் போஸ்ட் நாளிதழில் ஒரு செய்தி).

ஆனால் கத்தோலிக்க சரித்திரம் அவ்வாறு இல்லை. போபுகளுக்குத் தெரியாமல் எதுவும் நடப்பதில்லை. அப்படி சில கார்டினல்கள் தமதிச்சைக்குச் செயல் பட்டால், மற்றவர்கள் கண்காணித்துக் கொண்டுதான் இருக்கிறார்கள்.

முக்கியமாக செக்ஸ் விவகாரம் எனும் போது, அதில் எல்லொருமே பலவீனமானவர்கள் தாம். ஆகையால் தான் கிருத்துவ மேலிடம் விவகாரங்களை மறைக்கப் பார்க்கிறது. ஏனெனில் நடவடிக்கை எடுத்தால், மற்ற விஷயங்கள் வெளிவந்து விடுமே என்ற பயம் தான்.

sexy-pope-john-paul-2

sexy-pope-john-paul-2

Note: A nightclub flyer showing Pope John Paul II clutching a bottle of beer and dancing with a blonde in a mini-skirt had been banned by watchdogs for causing ’serious offence’. The ad, for Ipswich nightclub Club Fire, showed an image of the former Pontiff beneath a logo reading ‘Beserk’, and was aimed at those after an ‘alternative rock night – such as metallers, punks, goths and other similar subcultures’.

Sexy-pope-posing

Sexy-pope-posing

காற்றடித்து விலகியதா – தெரியவில்லை!

Kissing Pope

Kissing Pope

The Kissing Pope: One of the novelties in morality of Pope Wojtyla was to frequently kiss young women. In the picture above he seems quite involved with his action.  Never before had any Pope acted publicly in this way.

ஆட்டத்தை.ரசிக்கும்.போப்

ஆட்டத்தை.ரசிக்கும்.போப்

Watching a dancer during Mass at World Youth Day – 2000

பெண்கள்.போப்பை.வரவேற்பது

பெண்கள்.போப்பை.வரவேற்பது

அரை நிர்வாணப் பெண்களை வைத்து போப்பை வரவேற்பு செய்வது!

12-04-1984.பெண்கள்.ஆடுவதை.ரசிக்கும்,போப்

12-04-1984.பெண்கள்.ஆடுவதை.ரசிக்கும்,போப்

இதை மேனாட்டு நாகரிகம் என்று சப்பைக் கட்ட முடியாது. அளவுகோல் என்று வரும்போது, அதே ம்ஆதிரிதான் அளந்து பார்க்க வேண்டியுள்ளது.

On April 12, 1984, Catholic high schools of Rome brought together 1,200 young women in skintight apparel to perform for John Paul II, above left, wearing a red cape, at the olympic stadium.

திறந்த,மார்பு.பெண்ணுடன்.சேவை

திறந்த,மார்பு.பெண்ணுடன்.சேவை

Papua New Guinea, May 8, 1984: The bare-breasted native woman leaves the Pope’s presence after presenting the Offertory gifts.

போப்புக்கு.பரிசளிக்கும்.அறை.நிர்வாண.பெண்

போப்புக்கு.பரிசளிக்கும்.அரை.நிர்வாண.பெண்

Papua New Guinea, May 8, 1984 -  A hefty nude native woman brings the Offertory gifts for the Supreme Pontiff’s Mass.
A new concept of Morals is being applied.

பயபக்தியுடன்.திரும்பி.போகும்.பெண்

பயபக்தியுடன்.திரும்பி.போகும்.பெண்

Papua New Guinea, May 8, 1984 – The nude native woman returns to her place after presenting the Offertory gifts to John Paul

கன்னியாஸ்திரீயின்.ஆட்டம்

கன்னியாஸ்திரீயின்.ஆட்டம்

இப்படி மார்பகங்கள் பட்டால், கிலுகிலுப்பு வராதா? மறுபடியும் தனியாக சந்திக்க ஆசைவராதா?

Cologne 2005, August 16 – 21 – Belgian Sr. Johanne Vertommen dances with missionary priest Fr. John
in two close-ups of World Youth Day 2005. These pictures were published by the Flemish daily Het Laatste Nieuws.

ஆட்டம்.போடும்.கன்னியாஸ்திரீ

ஆட்டம்.போடும்.கன்னியாஸ்திரீ

இந்த அளவிற்கு, பாதிரிகளையும், கன்னியாஸ்திரீகளையும் நெருக்கமாக இருக்க அனுமதிப்பது சரியா?

செக்ஸ் பிரச்சினைகள் வரும் எனும்போது, ஆண்-பெண்களை திருமணம் செய்து கொள்ளக் கூடாது என்று தடைவிதிப்பது, அது செக்ஸ் உணர்ச்சியை இன்னும் அதிகமாக்கும்.

எல்லோரும் உணர்ச்சிகளைக் கட்டுப் படுத்தி ரிஷி, முனி, யோகி…போல இருக்க முடியாது.

அவ்வாறு முடிந்தவர்கள் இருக்கலாம்.

முடியாதவர்கள், திருமணம் செய்து கொண்டு இருப்பதுதான் எல்லா பக்தர்களுக்கும் நல்லது.




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பாதிரியார்கள் மாநாட்டில் சலசலப்பு: செக்ஸின் எதிரொலி!

April 9, 2010 by vedaprakash

பாதிரியார்கள் மாநாட்டில் சலசலப்பு: செக்ஸின் எதிரொலி!

கத்தோலிக்க கிறிஸ்தவ பாதிரியார்கள் ஆண்டு நிறைவு விழா மற்றும் கருத்தாய்வரங்கம் சாந்தோம் சர்ச்சில் நடந்தது. பலமுறை இவ்வாறு பிஷப்புகள் கூடி விவாதம் நடத்துவர். ஆனால், இப்பொழுது, உலகமுழுவதும் மற்றூம் இந்தியாவிலும், பிஷப்புகள் தொடர்ந்து பல குற்றங்கள், மோசடிகள், கொலைகள், கொல்லைகள்……முதலியவற்றில் ஈடுபடுவது அதிகமாவது அதிக கவலையை ஏற்படுத்தியுள்ளது. முன்பு 1980களில், தேவையில்லாமல், லிபரேஷன் தியாலஜி (Liberation Theology) என்ற சித்தாந்தத்தை அறிமுகப் படுத்தி பல பாதிரியார்கள் வங்கிக் கொள்ளைகளில் ஈடு பட்டு சீரழிந்தனர். இருப்பினும் அவர்கள் கதைகள் எல்லாம் மறைக்கப் பட்டன. இப்பொழுது, கிருத்துவப் பாதிரிகளின் செக்ஸ் விவகாரங்கள் எல்லை மீறி போய்விட்டதால், பெண்கள் முன்பு நிற்கவே, பேசவே நேர்மையான பாதிரி, பாஸ்டர் களுக்கு அவமானமாக இருக்கிறது. எனவே குற்றங்களில் ஈடுபடும் பாதிரிகள், பிஷப்புகள் அவர்களது பதவிகள் பறிக்கப் படவேண்டும் என்று அவர்கள் விரும்புகின்றனர். ஆனால், மொத்த பிஷப் கூட்டமோ மூடி மறைக்க வேண்டும் என்று எண்ணுவது ஆச்சரியமாக உள்ளது.

மயிலை மறை மாவட்ட துணை பிஷப் லாரன்ஸ் பயஸ் துரைராஜ் வரவேற்றார். ‘இந்தியாவில் இன்றைய பாதிரியார்களின் நிலை மற்றும் கிருத்துவத்தின் மேன்மை‘ என்ற தலைப்பில் பாதிரியார் டொமினிக் வெலியத் பேசினார். இறையியல் ரீதியாக வேத வசனங்களைச் சொல்லி பேசினாலும், அவர்களது மனசாட்சி உருத்துவது அவர்களது கண்களில் நன்றாகவேத் தெரிந்தது. அவர்கள் சிரித்துப் பேசிக் கொண்டதும், கைக் குலுக்கியதும் செயற்கையாகவே பட்டது. சர்ர்சைக்குட்பட்ட பிஷப்புகள் வரவில்லை. வேலூர் மறை மாவட்ட சமூக நலச்சங்க இயக்குனர் லூர்துசாமி தலைமையில் குருக்கள் பன்முகபணி குறித்த கலந்தாய்வரங்கம் நடந்தது. சமுதாய, கல்வி, பொருளாதார முன்னேற் றம் குறித்த செயல்பாடு திட்டங்கள் குறித்து கருத்தாய்வரங்கத்தில் விவாதிக்கப்பட்டன.

பிஷப்புகளின் நடவடிக்கைகள் பற்றி விவாதம் வந்தபோது அமுக்கி வாசிக்கப் பட்டன. தனியாக மூடிய அறைக்குள் விவாதம் என்ற ரீதியில் விஷயங்கள் அலசப் பட்டன. பலான பாஅதிரிகளின் அங்கிகள் நீகப் படவேண்டும் என்ற விவாதத்மும் கட்டுக்குள் அடக்கப் பட்டது. இதை அறிந்த விசுவாசக் கிருத்துவர்கள் மிகவும் வருந்தியதாகத் தெரிகிறது.

பிஷப் இல்லத்திலிருந்து பாதிரியார்களின் ஊர் வலம் நடந்தது.பிஷப் பேரவை தலைவர் சின்னப்பா தலைமையில் பாதிரியார்கள் ஆண்டு நிறைவு விழா மற்றும் கூட்டுத் திருப் பலி நடந்தது. கோவை மாவட்ட பிஷப் தாமஸ் அக்குவினாஸ் மறையுரை நிகழ்த்தினார். பிஷப் சவுந்தரராஜு, தமிழக அரசின் சிறுபான் மையினர் கமிஷன் தலைவர் வின்சென்ட் சின்னதுரை, பாதிரியார் அந் தோணி அம்புரோஸ் ஆகி யோர் கலந்து கொண்டனர்



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Sex with children AND getting rich? They're brilliant!

Category: Religion
Posted on: April 12, 2010 10:57 AM, by PZ Myers

ather Maciel was one of the most notorious influential pedophiles in the Catholic hierarchy — he led an order, the Legion of Christ, which seems to have consisted of likely catamites for his pleasures. Predatory sexual habits don't seem to be his only legacy, though: follow the money.

Maciel left a trail of wreckage among his followers. Moreover, in a gilded irony for Benedict -- who prosecuted him despite pressure from Maciel's chief supporter, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, Vatican secretary of state from 1990 to 2006 -- Maciel left an ecclesiastical empire with which the church must now contend. The Italian newsweekly L'espresso estimates the Legion's assets at 25 billion euros, with a $650 million annual budget, according to The Wall Street Journal .The order numbered 700 priests and 1,300 seminarians in 2008. On March 15 of this year, five bishops, called visitators, from as many countries, delivered their reports to the pope after a seven-month investigation. A final report is expected by the end of April.

Read the whole article. The twisted sexual politics of Catholicism are just a small part of the corrupt whole: the accounts of the kickbacks and bribes — $5000 here, $10000 there, all adding up to a giant pot of cash — make the organization sound like just a gilded Mafia.

For some reason, this video came to mind after reading it.

 



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